Mazzer Philos vs Turin DF64 Gen 2
The Turin DF64 Gen 2 scores higher overall (75 to 72), but the right pick depends on what you value. They differ most on noise and footprint and value.
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Which should you buy?
Pick the Mazzer Philos if
you drink espresso every day, have a deep counter with clear space above it, and want a heavy metal grinder you can open, clean and keep for years.
Pick the Turin DF64 Gen 2 if
you weigh each dose, drink mostly espresso and want a 64mm flat burr grinder with burr upgrades open to you later.
Aspect by aspect
| 7.8 | Grind quality | 8.0 | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7.6 | Adjustment | 8.8 | ||
| 6.4 | Retention and workflow | 6.9 | ||
| 7.6 | Build and reliability | 7.5 | ||
| 5.1 | Noise and footprint | 0.8 | ||
| 7.3 | Value | 8.9 |
Scores out of 10. Bold marks a lead of a point or more.
Where they differ most
- Noise and footprint: the Mazzer Philos scores 5.1 to the Turin DF64 Gen 2's 0.8.
- Value: the Turin DF64 Gen 2 scores 8.9 to the Mazzer Philos's 7.3.
- Adjustment: the Turin DF64 Gen 2 scores 8.8 to the Mazzer Philos's 7.6.
The details
| Mazzer Philos | Turin DF64 Gen 2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Mazzer | Manufacturer | Turin |
| 64 mm stainless steel burrs | Burr type and size | 64mm flat burrs |
| Dial, 6 microns per notch; switchable to stepless | Adjustment | Stepless |
| Negligible grounds retention | Retention (maker claim) | — |
| 1400 rpm - 1600 rpm | Motor speed | — |
| 27.5 lb | Weight | 15 lb |
| $1,595 (price at Clive Coffee, Nov 13, 2026) | Price | $366.95 (price at Espresso Outlet, Nov 13, 2026) |
